Saturday, August 14, 2010

Where Do You Start?

All you reading this are what I would consider normal, intelligent, aware, socially conscious and nice people. I know by your comments and the way you keep me in your bookmarks or regularly link from other like-minded sites.

It's easy to assume after a while out here that most folks are like us...really. Not so. We are an unusual breed. A sub-classification of the human form of the 21st century. We hold the unfettered sense of fact vs. fiction in keeping for mankind. We walk around in our day-to-day dealings with others and work and talk and relate as do all humans...but with a burden.

Much like Cassandra we feel powerless at times to explain how we see things and how others should "wake up" , as if it is just a matter of simply looking around -making simple connections-calling a spade a spade and acting on these conclusions. Everything would be so easy if people other than ourselves would just see that they are being deceived.
Well, that type of attitude is natural for us. We live in a world where lying, cheating, and oppression affects us personally. I guess that's the point...with us it's PERSONAL. And it's being personal is a frustration so compelling as to almost frighten those that do not suffer from it.


It isn't easy relating to others on many levels other than the mundane. Because invariably someone will drop what we consider a "bomb" into the conversation like "Well, it all boils down to those damned Mexicans stealing all our jobs"...or "I think that someone should just sit those people down in the ME and iron out all their differences so we don't have to hear about it all the time"...or "well, I used to be a republican, but now I register as a democrat".

And as you stand there, your whole being starts to twitch. You would like to drag out a blackboard and push that bomb-dropper back into a chair and explain things so that even HE can understand them...with colored chalk and pie-charts.
But you don't. Most of the time. You do not want to come off as an one does. But it is so easy to do just that. And we dislike that feeling in ourselves...but sometimes we actually DO try to explain our view of things...but where do we start? After such ordnance is hurled into a discussion,
your thought process goes something like this:

"ok..start with the house of,no...they won't stand still for a history lesson...try not to sound preachy..explain that the banks are controlling even their day-to-day life...mortgages, interest...yeah they will get that...or not...then you have to explain the philosophy of fiat will lose them...ask them if they know where the money comes from when they get a loan...yeah, that's good...but they probably won't believe that a bank just makes it up...then you will have to explain fractional reserve...and then discount theory...they will be snoring by the time you finish that....ok...they hate Mexicans...why?...explain that they are being manipulated by the media and they are hating the wrong thing...but they trust the media...ok, start with their trust of the media...but don't say the word will get one of those looks...let THEM make the conclusion...what was it that I remember from that el-ed class about leading a student to the correct conclusion by asking the right questions?...this person is pretty smart...they can understand the concept of social engineering....or not...what are their values?...what do they hold to be true? can I work that into showing them that they have been duped...suggest that they go to my, no...they won't and if they do, they would have to start reading articles stretching back months, to get what I am trying to say... they don't appear to be the reading type...but I do have lots of pictures.."

This all goes through your mind in the span of a few seconds and the easiest response and the one that is most common is something like.."Yeah,the world's full of problems". But we can't be like that. Their "bomb" dropped into the conversation must be viewed as a willingness to discuss what is important to them. Really. So instead of retreating to trite agreement over something with which you vehemtly disagree, you should answer more like this: "Well, y'know, just the other day I heard you say that Juan over in accounting, was one of the nicest people you have ever met"...then seguay into something like "perhaps we are directing our anger toward the wrong things?" If this sounds familiar...yes, I am taking a leaf from "their" zionist talking point tome. Fight fire with fire. Besides, these methods are much easier when you have truth on your side.

We have a mission, I think. For some reason, we have this ability to understand what we consider to be simple truths...and we are charged with alerting other people. No matter how difficult. No matter how politically incorrect. Much like the evangelist, we have to keep trying, or the world will never have felt our prescient presence.

These sites that we run are the choir. They are not a difficult endeavor. A bit risky. But here we have a captive audience and the time and opportunity to share our concerns, and maybe bring a few "fence-sitters" over to our school.
However, these are not in fact simple concepts to most. These are difficult precepts that have taken a great deal of our lives to grasp entirely.
We cannot expect someone that was raised in front of a television to see our point of view immediately. As the media understands, minds have to be changed in stages of repetition. And yes, you will become known as the wing-nut initially, but it is surprising how many people you can influence...people(including us) are a herding variety...the MSM knows and uses can we. The difference being that their purpose is to put them to sleep, and ours is to awaken them.


Anonymous said...

A brother-in-law.
He won't hear anything, won't learn anything new.
I'm wimpy when I read this post, so well
articulated...The guy told my nephew, apparently, that I have a mental problem or some chilhood paranoia anxiety because I try to tell them about 9/11 and things about the World.
The pack of Nigger-ettes is
the most important noticeable aspect of their lives.
Smokers are pretty much incompetents, by corpo-government design.
We sort of need to practice a real-life "Triage", as to
who is worthy?...who can really benefit from my efforts? I don't have a Bomb-shelter cavern to invite my loved ones into. There are folks who are
really necessary, but should not be made confused with too much information. We gotta manage our flock or village or extended-hippie-family.
Are we all Egalitarian?
They don't need to know right now about the massive bunch of History we really need to preserve for the other side of the NUKE Apocalypse.
I'm talkin about Hard-Copy website documents saved for after the EM-pulse destroys your nice wireless access.
These blogs provide some real Contemporary history expressed by real folks--not edited pap and
bo-shipp. REALLY! Dog, If I had a classroom full of
eager-beaver cyber kids, i'd task them to access, download and print-down all the best information for long-term hard-copy and durable-hardened formats. Your blog conversations are quite educative, and will be useful for AFTER the SHIPP hits the FANN!
....and the young-un's will read and learn and chatter and share and spread the truth.
Jonny Anon, not giving Goog and May-Goog
(hey I just Made that UP! Tee-Hee)...
That's why Anon, mate...New Mexico Blessed.
All Dogs Go to Heaven...

Anonymous said...

Great post!!A problem that I deal with most often is where to start. But like you said, not lose them. Just about everybody in my circle of friends is too busy or preoccupied trying to stay afloat to follow any line of thinking long enough to grasp the picture. And then when they do get the idea, it's so overwhelming they revert to "I can'y do anything about it, besides I got bills to pay and too many other things to worry about". I just want them to realise things are not what they seem and the is an agenda. OMG, don't say Jew or your work is really cut out for you. Thanks for relating to real life out here.

joe neckbone said...

I have no sympathy for the masses Timster. It is so blatant and in your face now the looting and criminal rule of law is dead government there is no excuse for not being awake, aware, alert.

chuckyman said...

You have a skill Timster for reaching out and voicing our inner thoughts. I have had many moments like the one you described. It is difficult to not let go with both barrels of the mental shotgun as the audience immediately shuts down.

I have a friend who is moving back to Scotland permanently soon. She is a US citizen and when she was home recently she knew that either home was different or she was. Her eyes aren’t all the way open – not yet. One day at a time and one conversation at a time is all that we have.

I would like to thank the recent post from Ragnarok when he said recently “I will not hate them but I will hate what they do.” I don’t have all the answers and that really helped calm my inner struggle. Maybe that’s why we keep calling in Timster. Speaking to the choir is sometimes how we touch the grounding wire that makes each days struggle a little easier.

ckpac said...

That was absolutely splendid. You are a top notch wordsmith!
Many thanks.

Timster said...

jonny anon...LOVE the Goog and May-Goog! and you are right about the TMI thing.

anon...That's one response that I get a lot of...and I don't have an answer for that one. It's just where they want us, it seems...too busy working to pay their bills to notice that they are bending us over...

Joe...I hear ya. But we are all the masses.

Chucky...Great quote wasn't it? Very well put...kinda like a support group...I find myself trying to ground out here from time to time when the BS gets so thick.

Thanks all for your comments...keep em comin.

The Eagle flies at night said...

As I begin a response to a person, possibly relaying something I have read here, and first crack in their window appears, the glaze in their eyes thickens. As I continue and sound of tinkling glass, assisted by gravity, takes the pane to the ground you get the sense they believe you are somewhat insane.

What they fear is fresh air. Once you shatter the window they reside behind and the fresh air of truth starts to flow in they panic.

They are so accustomed to being deceived and lied to they fend against truth.

While it may be true that no one leaves this world alive, that is no reason to existed "brain-dead".

I enjoy your 'starting points'.

Working man said...

Your best so far, congratulations.

So today I went to the park and struck up conversations with half a dozen random people about "stuff". Everyone I already "know" is stupid or tuned in, so I figured it would be interesting on a slow hot saturday in the park.

the world has become so polarized that we either totally grokked and agreed and supported each other or there was ZERO basis for any flow.

Yup monday morning lots of us get to sit thru the morning meeting at the slavery task. There will be racist diatribe thicker than aunt jemima around the Obama comments on the mosque at "ground zero"

Its gonna suck unless we are armed with some ways to shut the loudmouth cattle up.

Perhaps I could change the subject to how I got F'd over by a JAP whose parents hold the trust fund?

Anonymous said...

The Beatles in their song the fool on the hill echoes how i feel about praying they would wake up .

who can make war with the beast?

Timster said...

working man-I'm still laughing. You gotta get out here and help us...we need good writers like you.

Anon- We can.

Timster said... should be writing more. You have a calling.

veritas6464 said...

Hey Timster,...Eminently readable, as usual and the yellow bit is sublime!

When confronting the somnambulist: I find it easier to carry half-A4 pages printed landscape with large printed quotes which I give them, such as:

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

- Menachem Begin, Israeli Prime Minister to New Statesman magazine on June 25, 1982


"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.

Then I smile enigmatically…whilst blinking repetitively. Make it memorable for’em I always say.



Timster said...

veritas-Great idea! That might get through to them...and you don't have to say the forbidden word!

Anonymous said...

Jonny Anon, in NM, again...
When a feller learns up some new, cognitive-dissonant info, and skeptically probes, and asks, and
moves toward greater light, it can cause reflection on
previous assumptions and previous programs as to just WHAT is the TRUTH!
Now that we KNOW the Rumsfeld-Cheney-Wolfowitz-Rove-Kissinger-PNAC-Israeli Mossad-Military traitors
within USA actually DID DO 9/11....
We Know This....
Those of us Old enough to remember back to
so-called-Terrorist events of the Sixties must
wrinkle our brow, frown and grimace...
Did anybody see the movie titled, "Munich"??
I watched those '72 Olympics on TV.
All we ever saw of the Gunmen
was Black Hoods, balaclavas....
The movie, "Munich", when I saw it, if one really
watches carefully, might suggest in one moment
toward the end of the film, that possibly
MOSSAD NOT ONLY Infiltrated the Terrorists,
but that the sickening notion becomes more plausible: Mossad WAS the BLACK SEPTEMBER group,
and MOSSAD slaughtered their own Israeli Olympic athletes in '72, as a World-attention grabber to
falsely paint the Arabs-or-Muslims as the Murderers, and thus gain maximum sympathy.
Anybody think about this before?
How about the Rome Airport bombing of 1968?
Yesterday I hollered at a All-Veteran-Navy-Cap
retiree, and asked if he remembered the USS LIBERTY? He said yeah, did I remember the USS PUEBLO? I said yes! there has been some discussion that PUEBLO happened because nobody discussed
the reality of what happened to the LIBERTY.
I shared the idea with this Gung-ho guy that WOW
we are COMMANDED by the Israeli Military now!
Strange Days...we have so many Military guys that want to stay in a FANTASY zone about what our present dark reality is sticking in our faces.

Timster said...

Jonny in NM- Oh yeah...I remember. "Munich"...and don't forget "Raid on Entebbe"...what a flick.